Thursday, October 27, 2011

Homebrew Digest #5879 (October 27, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5879 Thu 27 October 2011


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Contents:
What does "Underlet" mean? (Dan Durrett)
RE: What does "Underlet" mean? (Patrick Babcock)


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* Beer is our obsession and we're late for therapy! *
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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:40:19 -0500
From: Dan Durrett <durrettd at cox.net>
Subject: What does "Underlet" mean?

I've heard the term, "underlet" before, but I don't remember what it means.
Is it back-flushing the wort into the bottom of the lauter tun?

Thanks for any clarification.

Dan

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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:14:07 -0400
From: Patrick Babcock <patrick.babcock at gmail.com>
Subject: RE: What does "Underlet" mean?

Greetings, Beerlings! Take me to your lager...

Dan Durrett <durrettd at cox.net> wonders what "underletting the mash" means...

Underletting is to apply pressure into the foundation of the mash tun rather
than on top of the loaded grist. The intent is to "float" the mash and help
prevent compacting of the grist within the mash tun. When I still had time
to brew, I would universally add hot liquor to the mash tun by this method:
I would first flow hot liquor into the tun until it was several inches
above the false bottom ("strike" water). I would then add my grist slowly,
stirring to ensure no clumping, and adding more hot liquor from beneath the
false bottom to keep the consistency of the mash loose enough to stir and
mix. Once I was satisfied that all of the grist was wetted and that there
were no dry pockets remaining, I would flow the remainder of my strike water
in from beneath the false bottom, "cut" the mash a few times to help loosen
it, then begin my recirculation for the remainder of the mash.

Underletting can be used, too, to loosen a "stuck" or compacted
mash. This can be done by reversing a recirculating pump while cutting the
mash (preferred, if your pump can handle it, your strike water was
sufficient for your desired mash thickness, and your mash is still in
progress), or by adding some of your sparge water - again: from beneath the
false bottom - while cutting. If underletting to relieve a stuck mash during
runoff, be sure to recirculate a bit before restarting your sparge to re-set
your filter bed.

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See ya!

Pat "Bruno Moore" Babcock
SE Michigan
HBD Chief Cook & Bottle Washer

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011

Homebrew Digest #5878 (October 25, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5878 Tue 25 October 2011


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Contents:
Underletting [SEC=PERSONAL] ("Williams, Rowan")
RE: No-Sparge Mash and Final Gravity ("Ryan Thomas")
(dangthibichcham)


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Projected 2011 Budget $3671.04
Expended against projection $2559.87
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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:55:44 +1100
From: "Williams, Rowan" <Rowan.Williams at ag.gov.au>
Subject: Underletting [SEC=PERSONAL]

Personal

Greetings all,

I recently brewed a Dortmunder using my standard recipe specifications with
just the one exception.

I underlet the mash.

I ended up with a crystal clear wort and beer, much clearer than any
previous batch of Dortmunder in the past.

Can anyone hazard a guess as to why?

The grist came from the same Weyermann bag that I've used in the past, and
the hops were from the same pack as used previously. On this occasion I used
W34/70 dry yeast which I proofed with water and a tablespoon of wort from the
boil. I also overshot my strike temp but brought it back into the zone with
a small addition of cold tap water.

I was pleasantly surprised how bright this beer was out of the tap.

Cheers,

Rowan

Canberra Brewers Australia

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:59:06 -0600
From: "Ryan Thomas" <ryanthomasai at gmail.com>
Subject: RE: No-Sparge Mash and Final Gravity

Alan,
In my one attempt at no-sparge brewing I had results that were in opposition
to yours. The Doppelcommon I made stalled out around 1.034 (from 1.092),
well below the rated attenuation of the yeast used. I did mash really high
though (158), which likely contributed to the underattenuation.
Ryan Thomas
Broomfield, CO

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Monday, October 24, 2011

Homebrew Digest #5877 (October 24, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5877 Mon 24 October 2011


FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
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Contents:
No-Sparge Mash and Final Gravity (Althelion)


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Beer is our obsession and we're late for therapy! *
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Projected 2011 Budget $3671.04
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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:15:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: Althelion at comcast.net
Subject: No-Sparge Mash and Final Gravity

As summer started to fade, I began brewing a few darker, stronger beers for
the fall and winter. I decided to employ the no-sparge technique in order to
intensify the malt flavor and aroma. I strongly suggest doing a no-sparge for
brown ales; scotch ales; etc. I really notice a greater malt flavor compared
to my usually fly-sparged mash beers. It seems that another effect of using
no-sparge is a greater attenuation as reflected in the final gravity
readings. Nothing earth shattering - maybe 5 - 7 points lower. Has anyone
else noticed this correlation between a no-sparge mash and greater
attenuation? Is there any literature on this topic?

Alan Pearlstein

Commerce Township, MI

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Sunday, October 23, 2011

Homebrew Digest #5876 (October 23, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5876 Sun 23 October 2011


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Contents:
Re: bottle conditioning (Matt Wallace)
thanks, and "what is it?" (Keith Busby)


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Beer is our obsession and we're late for therapy! *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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Projected 2011 Budget $3671.04
Expended against projection $2559.87
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:20:55 -0800
From: Matt Wallace <dubious.chewy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bottle conditioning

That's good to hear! Planning to bottle a dubbel after crash cooling for a
week or two which I've never done before and was wondering about that very
thing.

-Matt

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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:40:04 -0500
From: Keith Busby <kbusby at wisc.edu>
Subject: thanks, and "what is it?"

First thanks to those who answered my question about bottle-conditioning a
tripel. I used about 20% of a smack pack of Wyeast 3787, and built up the
rest for another brew, which leads me to "what is it?" The resulting
bottle-conditioned tripel, incidentally, is very good and is nicely
carbonated.

Today's brew was an attempt to a sorta-kinda Karmeliet. Grain bill was 10lb
pils, 1.5lb flaked wheat, 1.5lb white wheat, 1.5lb flaked oats, and 1lb cane
sugar; 1lb rice hulls for filtering; 1 oz sterling, 1 oz saaz, coriander and
orange peel. 1 1/2 hr mash at 148-150, 1 hr mash out at 172, 1 1/2 hr boil,
chill to 80F. Stuck run-off! I managed to salvage things with siphon and
sieve, and when cleaning the pot noticed a stringy rubbery substance clogging
the run-off tube. I have had this once before but can't recall the recipe.
What is it?

TIA.

Keith

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