Wednesday, December 8, 2010

Homebrew Digest #5766 (December 08, 2010)

HOMEBREW Digest #5766 Wed 08 December 2010


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Contents:
Re: Removing Sierra Nevada labels (David Huber)
Re: Bottle conditioning with brett? (Jeff Renner)
Re: Removing Sierra Nevada labels (stencil)
Re: Removing Sierra Nevada labels (Calvin Perilloux)


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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 02:20:53 -0500
From: David Huber <n3uks.dave at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Removing Sierra Nevada labels

My standard way of removing labels is to soak them in PBW. For beer
bottles I have found that a 24 hr soak will remove just about
anything.
Sometimes there will be some residue left behind, but that comes off
easily with my bottle brush. Interestingly, I have not
had any particular issues with Sierra Nevada (the Pale Ale, at least)
bottles. Recently I have been removing labels from wine bottles
and I am encountering the same stubborn glue you mentioned, which a
PBW soak won't remove. The only way I've been able to get it off,
after a
soak, is by using a glass scraper, but this increases the level of
effort greatly.

I recently was scanning through Jack Keller's WineBlog and on June 20,
2006 (http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/wineblog7.asp) someone
told him that xylol/xylene, which is a solvent you use to thin epoxies
and varnishes, takes that glue right off. You can get it at the
hardware
store.

Dave Huber
Jessup, Md


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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:49:36 -0500
From: Jeff Renner <jsrenner at umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Bottle conditioning with brett?

"Doug Moyer" <shyzaboy at yahoo.com> writes from Troutville, VA

> I made a biere de garde recently (currently "garding"). I plan to
> keg most
> of it. I was wondering if I could bottle condition some of it using
> brett.
> Has anyone done so? Caveats?

I have done this successfully with the originally English-isolated
Brettanomyces claussenii for a strong bitter from the Durden Park
Beer Circle booklet (Simonds bitter from 1880). I used no priming
sugar and after a couple of months it was well carbonated and
developing some mild Brett character. Not as strong as with B.
bruxellensis or B. lambicus. Some spice, leather (think shoe store),
fruit (maybe pineapple?). I like it and am looking forward to
following it over a year. It's now four months in the bottle.

I also did it with a porter, but with that one I used half the normal
priming sugar, and it was over carbonated.

I actually think that with your style, bottling with Brett. might be
more appropriate than kegging.

- ---
Jeff Renner in Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, jsrenner at umich.edu
"One never knows, do one?" Fats Waller, American Musician, 1904-1943

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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:07:53 -0500
From: stencil <etcs.ret at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Removing Sierra Nevada labels

On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:42:03 -0500,
in Homebrew Digest #5765 (December 07, 2010)
Doug Moyer wrote:

>>
>I've been using Straight A. Soaking in Straight A solution causes the labels
>to float off but the glue residue still needs to be carefully scrubbed

Saturate a square of paper towel with Goo Gone or paint
thinner (since that's what GG seems to be) and let it sit on
the glue patch for ten minutes. You still have to scrub
(scraps of wood whittled to an edge will help) and clean up
the GG itself (isopropanol in a spritzer works well.)

Swingtops forever.

gds, stencil

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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 11:37:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Calvin Perilloux <calvinperilloux at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Removing Sierra Nevada labels

Doug,

Unless Sierra Nevada changed their glue VERY recently,
their bottles have not posed too much problem for my usual
label-removing method.

I use ammonia in hot water, perhaps a cup or more of ammonia
in a 3-gallon bucket of VERY hot (e.g. 140F+) water, for hours.
There are some bottles where I have to resort to Goo-Gone,
but if I remember correctly, the Sierra Nevada bottles
only needed further soaking to remove the glue after the
labels come off. Keeping the water hot helps.

Calvin Perilloux
Middletown, Maryland, USA

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