Friday, November 27, 2009

Homebrew Digest #5631 (November 27, 2009)

HOMEBREW Digest #5631 Fri 27 November 2009


FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
Digest Janitor: pbabcock at hbd.org


***************************************************************
TODAY'S HOME BREW DIGEST BROUGHT TO YOU BY:

Sponsor The Home Brew Digest!
Visit http://www.hbd.org/sponsorhbd.shtml to learn how

Support those who support you! Visit our sponsor's site!
********** Also visit http://hbd.org/hbdsponsors.html *********

DONATE to the Home Brew Digest. Home Brew Digest, Inc. is a
501(c)3 not-for-profit organization under IRS rules (see the
FAQ at http://hbd.org for details of this status). Donations
can be made by check to Home Brew Digest mailed to:

HBD Server Fund
PO Box 871309
Canton Township, MI 48187-6309

or by paypal to address serverfund@hbd.org. DONATIONS of $250
or more will be provided with receipts. SPONSORSHIPS of any
amount are considered paid advertisement, and may be deductible
under IRS rules as a business expense. Please consult with your
tax professional, then see http://hbd.org for available
sponsorship opportunities.
***************************************************************


Contents:
Pilsners and decoction [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] ("Williams, Rowan")
("Paul Wilson Loaner")
pre-boil oxidation ("Darrell G. Leavitt")


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* The HBD Logo Store is now open! *
* http://www.hbd.org/store.html *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Beer is our obsession and we're late for therapy! *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

NOTE: With the economy as it is, the HBD is struggling to
meet its meager operating expenses of approximately $3400
per year. If less than half of those currently directly
subscribed to the HBD sent in a mere $5.00, the HBD would
be able to easily meet its annual expenses, with room to
spare for next year. Please consider it.

As always, donors and donations are publicly acknowledged
and accounted for on the HBD web page. THank you


Send articles for __publication_only__ to post@hbd.org

If your e-mail account is being deleted, please unsubscribe first!!

To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send an e-mail message with the word
"subscribe" or "unsubscribe" to request@hbd.org FROM THE E-MAIL
ACCOUNT YOU WISH TO HAVE SUBSCRIBED OR UNSUBSCRIBED!!!**
IF YOU HAVE SPAM-PROOFED your e-mail address, you cannot subscribe to
the digest as we cannot reach you. We will not correct your address
for the automation - that's your job.

HAVING TROUBLE posting, subscribing or unsusubscribing? See the HBD FAQ at
http://hbd.org.

LOOKING TO BUY OR SELL USED EQUIPMENT? Please do not post about it here. Go
instead to http://homebrewfleamarket.com and post a free ad there.

The HBD is a copyrighted document. The compilation is copyright
HBD.ORG. Individual postings are copyright by their authors. ASK
before reproducing and you'll rarely have trouble. Digest content
cannot be reproduced by any means for sale or profit.

More information is available by sending the word "info" to
req@hbd.org or read the HBD FAQ at http://hbd.org.

JANITORs on duty: Pat Babcock (pbabcock at hbd dot org), Jason Henning,
and Spencer Thomas


----------------------------------------------------------------------


Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:49:55 +1100
From: "Williams, Rowan" <Rowan.Williams at ag.gov.au>
Subject: Pilsners and decoction [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi Doak,

Thanks for the comments. I must confess that I don't have
much experience when it comes to decoctions. I was mashing
a batch about a year ago and found that I had fallen short of
my target mash temp so I pulled some of the mash, put it in a
pot, heated to a gentle simmer and mixed it back into the
mash and it worked a treat! Decoctions are useful compared
to adding more boiling water and diluting the mash in my
10 Gal Rubbermaid mashtun.

I also noted that the decoction encouraged a darkening of the mash,
presumably due to malliard reactions in the pot.

So, you seem to be suggesting a two step docoction - one from the protein rest
to the low end of the saccharification rest (beta amylase) and then a second
decoction to encourage the alpha amylase? I suppose practice will make
perfect, but is there any rule of thumb that will help achieve close to target
temps given that I'll probably mash around 4.5 kg or 10lbs of grist in about
10L / 2.6 US Gallons of strike water? Is a 25% pull in the zone if I want to
bring the mash up from the protein rest to a beta amylase temp range?

I figured that the first decoction will need a bigger pull to achieve the
beta rest temp compared to the relatively smaller step up to the alpha
rest temp and I don't want to totally denature all the enzymes in the
mash at the same time?!

Cheers,
Rowan


- ----------------------------------------------------
If you have received this transmission in error please
notify us immediately by return e-mail and delete all
copies. If this e-mail or any attachments have been sent
to you in error, that error does not constitute waiver
of any confidentiality, privilege or copyright in respect
of information in the e-mail or attachments.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:56:55 +0300 (EAT)
From: "Paul Wilson Loaner" <info at uk.org>
Subject:

PAUL WILSON LOANER
I am Mr. Paul Wilson, of the PAUL WILSON LOANER. I am private loan lender
.i give out loans to business people and individuals for just 3%interest
rate.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT YOU CAN GET YOUR LOANS IN LESS
THAN AN HOUR...
No matter the amount from $ 500 - $50.000000 (Dollars or Pounds)... I
Give out local and international loans to any body all over the world. I
give out loans via account transfer to what ever country you are. Your
rate will not change during your loan repayment! PAUL WILSON Personal
Loans can help make dreams possible. I do not require many documents. If
you are interested in getting a loan any where you are, home or office
from what ever locations from my company.

OTHER BENEFITS YOU STAND TO GAIN:

14-Day Guarantee: You can change your mind within 14 days with no charges,
no hassles.Guaranteed! No Prepayment Penalties: Pay
off your loan any time without extra fees!Fixed Interest Rates: Your rate
will not change during your loan repayment!

As a security precaution, sessions end after 1HR of inactivity

TO APPLY FILL THE FORM BELOW AND SEND VIA EMAIL TO
: paulwilsonloaner101 at yahoo.com.hk

Fast and secure one-page Application!

Personal Information
*Requested LOAN Amount....
*First Name....
*Last Name......
*Street Address.......
*City *State *Zip Code....
*LOAN DURATION?
*Primary Phone.....
Alternate Phone....
*Email *Verify Email.....
Alternate Email (Optional)....
*Date of Birth Month....
* MONTHLY INCOME.....

SEND VIA EMAIL TO: paulwilsonloaner101 at yahoo.com.hk


: +447035988157 OR +447045764409 not all lenders can provide the maximum
loan amount BUT WE CAN! By sending your data to
: paulwilsonloaner101 at yahoo.com.hk
, you certify that you are at least 18 years old

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:49:13 -0500 (EST)
From: "Darrell G. Leavitt" <leavitdg at plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: pre-boil oxidation

David or Rowan;
Please describe "pre-boil oxidation" to me. I am aware of hot side
aeration, but is this the same thing?
Thankyou.
Darrell

------------------------------
End of HOMEBREW Digest #5631, 11/27/09
*************************************
-------