Homebrew Digest #5756 (October 31, 2010)

HOMEBREW Digest #5756 Sun 31 October 2010

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Contents:
BrewStar recipe calculator (Bob Devine)

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 02:05:41 -0500
From: Bob Devine <devinebob at gmail.com>
Subject: BrewStar recipe calculator

If anyone needs a free (open source) recipe calculator,
I just added a new one to the SourceForge site:

http://brewstar.sourceforge.net

The program is still "beta" and evolving. To use it,
download the two files and then use your browser
to open the .html file. The second file is the data file.

Why another program? I needed a program that didn't
require an installation or depended on a particular OS.
You can use BrewStar on anything with a browser.

Please let me know if you find a bug or an improvement.

Bob Devine

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Homebrew Digest #5755 (October 28, 2010)

HOMEBREW Digest #5755 Thu 28 October 2010

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Listing of homebrewing retailers ("Lemcke Keith")

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:25:15 -0400
From: "Lemcke Keith" <klemcke at siebelinstitute.com>
Subject: Listing of homebrewing retailers

Danstar & Lalvin yeast offer a web-based listing of worldwide retailers
of home brewing & winemaking products, and we are looking to expand our
listings to include as many homebrewing/winemaking stores as possible.
If you operate a homebrewing/winemaking store and would like to be
included in our listings, please complete the following information and
send it to homebrewing at lallemand.com
<http://danstaryeast.com/homebrewing at lallemand.com> .

Name of the Business:
Street Address:
City:
State/Province:
Postal Code:
Country:
Phone Number (for sales):
Email Address:
Web Site URL:
Do you sell our beer-related products?:
Do you sell our wine-related products?:
Do you ship products (mail-order)?:

If you are a homebrewer or winemaker, please forward this on to your
local retailer. You can see the retailer listings on our web sites at
http://www.danstaryeast.com/retailers/map and at
http://www.lalvinyeast.com/contacts.asp.

Keith Lemcke
Danstar & Lalvin Yeast

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Homebrew Digest #5754 (October 18, 2010)

HOMEBREW Digest #5754 Mon 18 October 2010

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Contents:
re: Sulfur smell [SEC=PERSONAL] ("Williams, Rowan")
RE: Beer in the Bible ("Mike Patient")
Nottingham yeast ("Lemcke Keith")

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:07:49 +1100
From: "Williams, Rowan" <Rowan.Williams at ag.gov.au>
Subject: re: Sulfur smell [SEC=PERSONAL]

Personal
Personal
Thanks all for the comments.
I have racked the beer into secondary and it seems to be ok.

I will bottle some and keg the rest
I want to see if the smell disappears in the bottle.
I know the aroma will dissipate when I burp the keg.

Regards,
Rowan

Canberra Brewers Club
Australia
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:41:54 -0400
From: "Mike Patient" <mpatient at rta.biz>
Subject: RE: Beer in the Bible

While I was originally thinking, what is this spam, after reading it, in the
least it is beer history.
What I was wondering is if they even though of spirits and beer/wine to
contain the same uplifting ingredient.
They were probably considered two different things to do to your body.
It probably wasn't until science and chemistry was taken into account that
we realized they are the same thing, and equally dangerous.
Their condemnation of spirits was falsely placed where it should have been
on, indulgence.

Ohh, the things we know now.

Mike

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:08:14 -0400
From: "Lemcke Keith" <klemcke at siebelinstitute.com>
Subject: Nottingham yeast

We have received a few inquiries regarding Nottingham batch #
1080961099V exp. date: 12/2011 which have lead us to comments on
homebrew forums regarding fermentation problems. While our tests on
this batch of yeast have shown normal fermentation performance and many
of the comments on forums show others having normal performance with
this batch, unfortunately we also note with serious concern the comments
of brewers who have reported poor performance. Accordingly we feel we
should stop the sale of this particular batch of yeast, given the
concerns of homebrewers, as we work to investigate further.

We have asked distributors and homebrew retailers to return any yeast
from this batch to us for replacement. If you have sachets from this
batch of yeast please return them to us and we will replace them with a
different batch. Please feel free to send the sachet(s) for replacement
to:

Lallemand Inc.
Attn: Marie Coppet
6100 Royalmount
Montreal, QC, Canada
H4P 2R2

If you have any questions, please contact me at klemcke at lallemand.com.
Thanks very much.

Keith Lemcke
Lalvin & Danstar yeast

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Homebrew Digest #5753 (October 17, 2010)

HOMEBREW Digest #5753 Sun 17 October 2010

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Contents:
Sulfur Smell (Chuck Petersen)
Beer in the Bible ("Michael P.Thompson")

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* Beer is our obsession and we're late for therapy! *
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 07:31:38 -0700
From: Chuck Petersen <hopman at opusnet.com>
Subject: Sulfur Smell

Rowan
The sulfur smell is common on several yeasts during fermentation
and will go away as the yeast reabsorbs chemicals as it completes it's
fermentation. If the smell lingers after fermentation is complete that
may be a problem but it usually subsides.

Chuck Petersen
Deer island, Oregon

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:32:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael P.Thompson" <thompson at ecentral.com>
Subject: Beer in the Bible

When I was growing up, it was considered sinful for Christians to
drink beer, and so, when I dedicated my life to the Lord, I became a
teetotaller. However, I noted that the Bible does not condemn
drinking per se, but drunkenness and out-of-control intoxication.
Solomon in the Proverbs warns against the dangers of mixed drinks and
strong liquor. Paul writes to the Ephesians to avoid being drunk with
wine, which he describes as "dissipation."

On the other hand, we have a clear example of Jesus turning water
into very good wine at a wedding feast, and the same Paul advises
Timothy to drink a bit of wine now and then for health reasons. It
does not appear that alcohol was considered sinful by the Biblical
writers in the same way as my peers in a small Colorado farming
community. But beer seems to gain no mention at all.

At least that's what I would have thought before I read a fascinating
article in Biblical Archaeology Review for September/October 2010
(Did the Ancient Israelites Drink Beer? by Michael M. Homan). It
would appear that the lack of prominent mentions of beer in the Bible
are due far more to the inadequacies of translation than lack of
mention by the Bible itself.

In the article, Mr. Homan cites several mentions of beer, brewing and
a popular beer culture in ancient times, which are reflected in the
Biblical record. He even gives a recipe for ancient beer as brewed in
Bible times. Apparently, they made barley into cakes, which were
soaked in water and fermented. The similarities to bread-making have
obscured the references to beer in most modern translations.

I found especially fascinating his take on the popular quote from
Ecclesiastes, "Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it
after many days. Give a portion to seven, and also to eight; for thou
knowest not what evil shall be upon the earth." Ecclesiastes 11:1, 2,
KJV.

Mr. Homan's take on this passage is:

Throw your bread upon the face of the water, because in many days
you will acquire it. Give a serving to seven and also eight,
because you do not know what evil will be upon the land.
(Ecclesiastes 11:1-2)

I believe this is a reference to the cakes of bread used in ancient
beer production, as noted earlier. Cast your bread upon the water
and it will return as beer. Much like the phrase carpe diem, the
author advises making beer and drinking it with friends, because
you don&#8217;t know what evil might be coming.

I realize not all of the subscribers of HBD are Christians or usually
interested in the Bible, but this article is still interesting for
its historical value and its commentary on contemporary religion,
especially prohibitions against the use of alcohol in any form. Check
it out at: http://tinyurl.com/34rtncc

BTW, I've long since made peace with the responsible enjoyment of
alcohol and I enjoy brewing and imbibing a large variety of beer, and
the occasional whiskey without a worry that it is inconsistent with
my Christian testimony. If any of you run across friends or
acquaintances who feel as I used to, you might refer them to this
article.

Slainte,

Michael

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Certified Destination Specialist for Ireland and Scotland
http://www.dorascuil.com

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Homebrew Digest #5752 (October 14, 2010)

HOMEBREW Digest #5752 Thu 14 October 2010

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Contents:
WLP002 and sulphur? [SEC=PERSONAL] ("Williams, Rowan")
Blichmann kettle with whole hops (Kevin Masaryk)

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* Beer is our obsession and we're late for therapy! *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:45:50 +1100
From: "Williams, Rowan" <Rowan.Williams at ag.gov.au>
Subject: WLP002 and sulphur? [SEC=PERSONAL]

Personal
G'day all,
I recently pitched a starter of WLP002 into an ESB wort.
It started fermenting at around 18C / 64F and gave loads of sulphur.
Has the yeast gone bad? Last time I smelt this I was brewing a Dort!
I raised the temp to help remove the smell.

Regards,
Rowan

Canberra Brewers Club
Australia

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:09:39 -0700
From: Kevin Masaryk <kevin.masaryk at gmail.com>
Subject: Blichmann kettle with whole hops

Has anyone tried using whole hops in a Blichmann kettle with the mash
screen as a hop filter? I used to do this on another kettle I had with
a standard drilled-hole mash screen and it worked great; however, the
button-style holes on the Blichmann screen worry me that they may
become clogged easier.

Thanks,
Kevin Masaryk
Arizona Society of Homebrewers

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Homebrew Digest #5751 (October 13, 2010)

HOMEBREW Digest #5751 Wed 13 October 2010

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Contents:
Re: Dividing Yeast Starters (Michael Moore)

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:40:14 -0400
From: Michael Moore <mnmoore at lakeheadu.ca>
Subject: Re: Dividing Yeast Starters

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 00:15:12 -0400,
in Homebrew Digest #5749 (October 11, 2010)
Robert Tower wrote:

>The problem I'm having is dividing the yeast starter to
>pitch to each fermentor. I do 2 liter starters in a 3 liter beaker on a
>stir plate. For the first batch with my new set up, I merely swirled the
>contents of the beaker in an attempt to get the yeast in suspension.

Are using a magnetic stir-bar of some sort with your stir plate?
If so, why don't you just resuspend the yeast using the stir bar?
If not, how are you using the stir plate?

If you have the PTFE coated bars, I don't think there should be any
problem if you accidentally drop it into your wort with your yeast,
but you could hold a magnet near the spout of the beaker to 'catch'
the stir bar before it flies out.

Beakers are not easy to swirl compared to an Erlenmeyer flask,
especially when they are over half-filled. For me, a 50% full
Erlenmeyer is the easiest amount for swirling - I don't use beakers
anymore.

Good luck,
Mike

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:11:01 -0400
From: stencil <etcs.ret at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Dividing Yeast Starters

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 00:15:12 -0400,
in Homebrew Digest #5749 (October 11, 2010)
Robert Tower wrote:

>
> The problem I'm having is dividing the yeast starter to
>pitch to each fermentor. I do 2 liter starters in a 3 liter beaker on a
>stir plate. [ ... ] I took the
>beaker off the stir plate, gave it a good swirl, then poured half the
>contents into fermentor #1, and then poured the remaining half into
>fermentor #2.
>

I would propose purchasing a second 3 liter beaker; then at
pitching time pour the starter back and forth several times
until good agitation has been achieved - better at least than
a "good swirl" would get you.

gds, stencil

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:07:26 -0400
From: David Harsh <dharsh at fuse.net>
Subject: Lemon grass in beer

Darla Orth <darlakorth at yahoo.com> asks about using lemon grass:

No experience with Kaffir Lime, but I've used lemongrass once.

Added it with about 15 minutes left in the boil and got an
interesting flavor (what you would have expected) along with an
astrigent tannins that took about a year to fade.

Once it did, the beer was quite interesting, but until then it was
undrinkable. I'd recommend the addition at knockout.

Dave Harsh Cincinnati, OH
Bloatarian Brewing League

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:05:48 -0700
From: Robert Tower <roberttower at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Dividing Yeast Starters

I've recently changed my fermentation equipment and I now find myself
brewing 10 gallon batches, with the wort being divided between two
fermentors. The problem I'm having is dividing the yeast starter to
pitch to each fermentor. I do 2 liter starters in a 3 liter beaker on a
stir plate. For the first batch with my new set up, I merely swirled the
contents of the beaker in an attempt to get the yeast in suspension.
This was done right after taking the beaker off the stir plate, so it
wasn't as if the yeast had settled to the bottom already. I took the
beaker off the stir plate, gave it a good swirl, then poured half the
contents into fermentor #1, and then poured the remaining half into
fermentor #2.

Fermentor #1 took off about 12 hours earlier than #2. Eventually #2 got
going, and all was well. #1 finished in about 4 days. A day or two
later, #2 slowed way down but then continued to weakly ferment for
another week. Eventually, it finally stopped. When I took gravity
readings, both were exactly the same. There's a slight difference in
flavor between the two as well. It was a hefeweizen fermented with WLP
380 Hefeweizen IV. Fermentor #2 beer is slightly sharper and spicy, but
the difference is fairly subtle. My guess is that #1 got more and/or
healthier yeast than did #2.

If you split your yeast starters between fermentors, please tell me your
techniques and results. Is there a better way of handling this.

It occurred to me that I could do two separate starters. The downsides
of that would be that I'd have to do two starters in sequence in which
case one would be older than the other and thus they wouldn't be the
same and I might get other problems/inconsistencies. Or I'd have two
have two stir plates and two beakers. I don't want to go that route
either as I already have a tendency towards sprawling Rube Goldberg type
set ups!

Bob Tower / Los Angeles, CA

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:39:06 -0400
From: "David Houseman" <david.houseman at verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Kaffir Lime and Lemongrass Berliner Weisse

Darla,

I have made beers with lemongrass. I added lemongrass to the boil with
about 15 minutes to go. I cut up the lemongrass to provide more surface
area. Later I did dry "lemongrass" with cut up lemongrass that I soaked in
vodka to sanitize. Can't say which provide more lemongrass character but
the combination was very good. One suggestion is that this takes more
lemongrass than you'd think. I used about 6 stalks in the boil and another
4 or so as dry spicing. I would have have doubled this for a more
pronounced lemongrass character.

David Houseman

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:54:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Darla Orth <darlakorth at yahoo.com>
Subject: Kaffir Lime and Lemongrass Berliner Weisse

Does anyone have any experience as to best way to
introduce these ingredients into my beer?
I want something citrusy and refreshing.
I've done a Berliner Weisse before but have
never worked with Kaffir Lime or Lemongrass.
Is it best to add at the end of boil?
Do a tea? Dry hop? All of the above?

Thanks for your help!

-Darla

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Re: Bramling Cross ("Andrew J. Korty")

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 06:22:29 -0500
From: "Mike Maag" <mikemaag at comcast.net>
Subject: Bramling Cross

Calvin, Al Korzonas states in "Homebrewing, Volume I",
"Bramling Cross- an "aroma varirety" from Britian. It is a grandparent of
Saxon and Viking. Bramling Cross has a unique toasty, buttery, slightly
resiny aroma with some woody notes. Substitutes: Fuggle, in my opinion,
based on aroma." " Alpha 5.5 to 7.0, Beta acid % of Alpha 2.5 to 3.5,
Cohumulone acid 34
I have not used it myself, but have always found Al's information to be very
good. His book has great descriptions of hops, yeasts, styles, etc.
Hey Al, is there a Volume II in the works yet?

Mike Maag
Shenendoah Valley

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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:56:09 -0400
From: "Andrew J. Korty" <ajk at iu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bramling Cross

Calvin, I haven't brewed with Bramling Cross, but Ant Hayes mentioned
it in his presentation[1] (slide 21) at the last AHA Conference as
used in single-varietal golden ale. Seems it must have decent flavor
and aroma profiles to be used in single-varietal beer.

Andrew Korty

Footnotes:
[1] http://mcaf.ee/ceb48

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Bishops finger ale ("Bill & Sara Frazier")
Bramling Cross (Calvin Perilloux)
Bishops Finger hop profile? ("Rupert Hodgkins")

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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 23:44:29 -0400
From: "oobyjooby" <oobyjooby at cs.com>
Subject: re:Bishop's Finger

Sounds like it is Maris-Otter malt and E. Kent Goldings.

have fun!

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 00:26:07 -0500
From: "Bill & Sara Frazier" <bsfrazier at att.net>
Subject: Bishops finger ale

Check "bishopsfinger.co.uk"...info on the site says hops are East Kent
Goldings.

Bill Frazier
Olathe, Kansas

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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 08:34:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Calvin Perilloux <calvinperilloux at yahoo.com>
Subject: Bramling Cross

It appears that I have won a packet of Bramling Cross hops
from a recent competition. An 11-pound packet, to be precise.
But I honestly have never used these before, so I don't know
what to expect.

I've dug up various information, both good and not so good,
about this variety, and the most encouraging bit that I have
seen so far is that Bramling Cross is the hop that gives
Ruddles County (bitter) its character.

Since I enjoyed Ruddles County when I was living in the UK,
it's not a bad thing knowing that they use Bramling Cross,
but I'd certainly appreciate any and all comments that fellow
homebrewers have had with these. Not repeats of what you get
off the web, though! I've already got those, saying it's
"interesting" and "characterful" and "underappreciated",
among other (scary) things. I'm specifically looking for your
own first-hand experience with Bramling Cross, if possible.

Thanks,
Calvin Perilloux
Middletown, Maryland, USA

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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:53:54 +0100
From: "Rupert Hodgkins" <RHodgkins at shepherd-neame.co.uk>
Subject: Bishops Finger hop profile?

Long time lurker here.

Rowan, I feel qualified to answer your question. Bishops Finger uses
Target hops (grown in Kent) for bittering and East Kent Goldings as the
late hop.

Regards,
Rupert

Shepherd Neame Ltd., Registered No:138256
Registered Office 17 Court Street, Faversham, Kent, ME13 7AX, United Kingdom Telephone +44(0)1795 532206.
Website: http://www.shepherd-neame.co.uk
The Queen's Awards for Enterprise: Sustainable Development
The Publican Awards 2008 - Regional Brewer of the Year

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 10:04:25 +1100
From: "Williams, Rowan" <Rowan.Williams at ag.gov.au>
Subject: Bishops Finger hop profile? [SEC=PERSONAL]

Personal
G'day all,
I want to make a replica of Bishops Finger Kentish ale.

Does anybody know what the distinct hop flavour is?

I suspect it is Target - can anybody please confirm?

Thanks,
Rowan

Canberra Brewers
Australia

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