Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Homebrew Digest #5886 (December 06, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5886 Tue 06 December 2011


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Hop Aroma ("A. J. deLange")
Re: Hop aroma (TARogue)


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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 08:03:46 -0500
From: "A. J. deLange" <ajdelan at gmail.com>
Subject: Hop Aroma

Hop aroma (and flavor) come from the essential oils. Putting hop flowers
in a hammer mill and then compressing the powder into pellets has got to
have a detrimental effect on these volatile oils. Thus I'd offer that
the first step in obtaining aroma/flavor is to use at least some portion
of leaf hops. These seem to be getting harder and harder to get.
Obviously packaging in the small quantities that home brewers buy and
doing it for a couple dozen varieties has got to be easier with pellets
than leaf and the wholesalers seem to be going that way.

Second factor is heat which drives off the essential oils so to maximize
aroma and flavor one needs to minimize heat. Dry hopping is obviously
one way to go. Late kettle additions (even right at knockout) is another.

Seems to me that the ultimate way to get lots of aroma and flavor is not
to use hops at all but rather their extracted essential oils. One way to
get these is by steam distillation of a quantity of hops. This you can
do yourself but it does take some equipment and know how (not much of
the latter). Or you can buy the essential oils of several varieties from
the larger HB suppliers. Adding essential oils to the beer will give you
much more flavor and aroma than you can reasonably expect to get from
flowers and/or pellets. Some interesting beers result.

A.J.

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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:32:45 -0800 (PST)
From: TARogue <tarogue at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hop aroma

- --- On Tue, 12/6/11, Scott Dunn wrote:

>

> Hello group:

>

> I have been having trouble getting hop aroma in my brews. I

> could use a bit

> of a refresher or perhaps some advise.

>

For hop aroma you want to add the hops during the last 10 minutes (or less)
of the boil. Obviously, bigger batches need more hops. Two ounces (57 grams)
at ten minutes should be good.

Good luck!

- --

-Tom

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http://twitter.com/originaltarogue

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Monday, December 5, 2011

Homebrew Digest #5885 (December 05, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5885 Mon 05 December 2011


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Brett (Stephen Neilsen)
Professional Beer Tasting & Styles Class (Siebel Institute)
Hop aroma ("Dunn, Scott C FLNR:EX")


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Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:31:49 +1100
From: Stephen Neilsen <stephen.neilsen at gmail.com>
Subject: Brett

Bottle as normal, Brett, like all yeasts will continue to work until all
available food is eaten...I am not certain if you can get autolysis from
Brett but your primary yeast might do so if left too long.
K

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:36:07 -0800
From: "Dunn, Scott C FLNR:EX" <Scott.Dunn at gov.bc.ca>
Subject: Hop aroma

Hello group:

I have been having trouble getting hop aroma in my brews. I could use a bit
of a refresher or perhaps some advise.

I use a gravity feed counterflow chiller and I think that might be the root
of the issue. I recently went from 23L to 50L.

Will dry hoping help? Is there a special technique for using pellet hops in
a hop back or to dry hop. My last experience with pellet dry hoping was okay
but it turned out to be a gooey mess. The little buggers really expand when
you put them hot water.

Thanks for the help

It is good to be back into brewing again

Scott C. Dunn RPF

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Friday, December 2, 2011

Homebrew Digest #5884 (December 02, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5884 Fri 02 December 2011


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Contents:
Brett question ("Darrell G. Leavitt")
SaniClean (Kevin Brown)


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Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 07:17:21 -0500 (EST)
From: "Darrell G. Leavitt" <leavitdg at plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: Brett question

I recently brewed a Belgian Amber Ale, the put some brett into the secondary.

How long should one leave it there before bottling?

Happy Brewing!

Darrell


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Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 09:36:48 -0400
From: Kevin Brown <kbrownvi at gmail.com>
Subject: SaniClean

Jeff,:
I switched from StarSan to SaniClean for the same reason, I pump my
sanitizer through a spray ball to sanitize my 28 gal concial. I use it
at the stated concentration and never post rinsed. I Ihave seen no it
effects for this process. BTW I also pump PBW through the spray ball
to clean fermenter. using this technique I only use about a gallon of
sanitizer or PBW. I got the small poly sprayball from GW Kent.

Cheers,
Kevin

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:52:58 -0500
From: "Jeff Hewit" <bippoj at gmail.com>
Subject: Sanitizer Question

I have been using StarSan to sanitize my equipment. I have considered
switching to SaniClean since it produces less foam. (I use a pump in part
of my operation.) However, I am not sure about rinsing. Some descriptions
of SaniClean indicate that it must be rinsed, which I would prefer not to
do. Other descriptions refer to it simply as a low foaming alternative to
StarSan. Since StarSan is a no-rinse sanitizer, this would infer that
SaniClean is as well. Does anyone have experience in using SaniClean as a
no-rinse sanitizer?

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Thursday, December 1, 2011

Homebrew Digest #5883 (December 01, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5883 Thu 01 December 2011


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Contents:
Bitterness/Mash pH ("A.J deLange")
Bitter beer (rgriller)
Re: Too bitter ale (Michael Greenberg)


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Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 06:02:36 -0500
From: "A.J deLange" <ajdel at cox.net>
Subject: Bitterness/Mash pH

Bitterness does fade with time but the time required for bitterness to
fade will probably be sufficient time for oxidation to set in. A more
immediate solution would be to dilute the overly bittered beer with one
that is under bittered. You could experiment to find out how much to
dilute with megabrew which is usually at about 14 IBU.

WRT mash pH: It has some influence on the final pH of the beer but the
yeast will do everything they can to pull the pH down into the range 4.3
(or even lower in the case of some ales) to 4.6 (lagers). Of course if
the water is extremely alkaline they won't succeed but then the
fermentation won't proceed properly and you will probably have pretty
bad beer. But then mashing at pH of 6 or higher is going to produce
pretty bad beer as well.

Further to all that the pH of the foods you eat/drink will have some
effect on the pH of the stomach contents but again not that much. Your
stomach secretes hydrochloric acid and the pH of gastric contents is
generally around 2. Drinking a beer at pH 4.2 isn't going to change that
much and certainly isn't going to bring it lower. The problem with
reflux isn't the pH of the gastric contents anyway - it's the reflux.
I'd see a doctor about that. There are several things that can be done
such as not overly filling the stomach especially in the evening,
sleeping with the head elevated...

A.J.

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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:14:59 +0000
From: rgriller at chass.utoronto.ca
Subject: Bitter beer

"I recently brewed an IPA and used magnum hops for the first time.

Unfortunately I under-estimated their strength and the ale is really too

bitter. I would hate to have to pour it down the sink and wondered if the

bitterness will mellow with age. It is presently being stored in the fridge

at 35F."

Not an answer to your question, but you could try serving at traditional
English ale temps (50-54F) as at warmer temps malt perception will be
stronger and the beer should taste somewhat less bitter. Maybe not enough of
a change, but worth a shot, especially as ales (imho) are better served at
those higher temps in any case! :)

Robin

Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 09:37:02 -0500
From: Michael Greenberg <michael.m.greenberg at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Too bitter ale

Hi Alan,

I can't speak to mash pH---it's not something I spend a lot of
time worrying about. But have you considered blending your hoppy
IPA with something lighter? You could brew a batch with very few
bittering additions and try to find a balance between the two.

Cheers,
Michael

------------------------------
End of HOMEBREW Digest #5883, 12/01/11
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Contents:
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Sanitizer Question ("Jeff Hewit")
Re: What is Weizenbraumalz hell (Mike Schwartz)
Re: What is Weizenbraumalz hell (D.T.)" <dpeters3@ford.com>
Too bitter ale ("Alan & Ondina Colton")
Triangle Test ("A.J deLange")


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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:30:21 -0500
From: Aaron Hermes <aaron.hermes at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: What is Weizenbraumalz hell

I'm no German scholar, but I would take that to mean "light wheat brewing
malt". (Hell = light, I believe, as in "helles")


aaron

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Request Address Only - No Articles <
homebrew-request at hbd.org> wrote:

> What is Weizenbraumalz hell

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:52:58 -0500
From: "Jeff Hewit" <bippoj at gmail.com>
Subject: Sanitizer Question

I have been using StarSan to sanitize my equipment. I have considered
switching to SaniClean since it produces less foam. (I use a pump in part
of my operation.) However, I am not sure about rinsing. Some descriptions
of SaniClean indicate that it must be rinsed, which I would prefer not to
do. Other descriptions refer to it simply as a low foaming alternative to
StarSan. Since StarSan is a no-rinse sanitizer, this would infer that
SaniClean is as well. Does anyone have experience in using SaniClean as a
no-rinse sanitizer?

Thanks.

Brew On!


------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:30:14 -0600
From: Mike Schwartz <mjs at seadogboats.com>
Subject: Re: What is Weizenbraumalz hell

Pete said "I have a recipe for an Oktoberfest that calls for
Weizenbraumalz hell"

Google translate can also be your friend ;)

Looks like standard light wheat. I'd venture the only reason to add
this is for head as wheat isn't a traditional ingredient in
Oktoberfest. You could replace it with Pils or Vienna if you don't have
head issues.

Designation: Weizenbraumalz light
Production: Wheat 1), Kilned pale
Standard Specification:

Extract, TrS > 84%
Water content <5.5%
Wort color 3-5 EBC - Units
Saccharification <20 Min
Protein content, TrS <12.5 %
Soluble nitrogen, TrS 650-850 mg / 100g
Degree of protein solution (Kolbachzahl) 37.0 to 44.0 %
pH 5.9 to 6.1
Viscosity <1.95 mPas

* Analysis method MEBAK, raw tape, 2006

Application: Producing lighter wheat beers
Delivery: Loose (truck, car)
500 kg Big Bag
50 kg plastic bag
25 kg paper bag with inlay
Premix factory possible

1) exclusively B-wheat varieties with excellent suitability for brewing
extensive series of studies has been demonstrated

Mike Schwartz
Beer Barons of Milwaukee
beerbarons.org
worldofbeerfestival.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:22:37 +0000
From: "Peters, David (D.T.)" <dpeters3 at ford.com>
Subject: Re: What is Weizenbraumalz hell

Germans tend to develop new words by adding several together as was done
here. Weizen is wheat, brau is brew, malz is malt and hell is light. This
would be a light wheat brewing malt.

' Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:09:08 -0500
' From: Pete Calinski <pete.calinski at gmail.com>
' Subject: What is Weizenbraumalz hell

' I have a recipe for an Oktoberfest that calls for Weizenbraumalz
hell. I
' gather it is a wheat malt but I can't get any more information than
that.
' All google brings up are German language sites and the translate
function
' doesn't give me enough info.

' What might be a good substitute?

' Thanks,

' Pete

David T. Peters
Northville, MI


------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:47:39 -0600
From: "Alan & Ondina Colton" <thecoltons at btl.net>
Subject: Too bitter ale

I recently brewed an IPA and used magnum hops for the first time.
Unfortunately I under-estimated their strength and the ale is really too
bitter. I would hate to have to pour it down the sink and wondered if the
bitterness will mellow with age. It is presently being stored in the fridge
at 35F.

On another note I suffer from acid reflux and so have been mashing my beers
at 6.0PH. This does not appear to have affected the flavour. What would be
the effect of making the mash PH neutral at 7.0. or would it be better to
mash at 4.2PH and then adjust the boil PH to 7.0.

Alan Colton

Swamp Water Brewery of Belize

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:30:47 -0500
From: "A.J deLange" <ajdel at cox.net>
Subject: Triangle Test

I responded directly to Dr. Pivo's request directly by sending him a
spreadsheet which duplicates the data in the ASBC table but also
calculates the actual confidence (i.e. for 13 right answers from a panel
of 25 it tells you that the confidence is 4.1%, not just that you need
13 right answers for better than 5% confidence). But as it might be of
interest to others I also put it up at www.wetnewf.org. It's the last
item under Brewing Articles etc.

A.J.

------------------------------
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Homebrew Digest #5881 (November 29, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5881 Tue 29 November 2011


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Contents:
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triangle test ("Dr. Pivo")


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Beer is our obsession and we're late for therapy! *
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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:09:08 -0500
From: Pete Calinski <pete.calinski at gmail.com>
Subject: What is Weizenbraumalz hell

I have a recipe for an Oktoberfest that calls for Weizenbraumalz hell. I
gather it is a wheat malt but I can't get any more information than that.
All google brings up are German language sites and the translate function
doesn't give me enough info.

What might be a good substitute?

Thanks,

Pete


------------------------------

Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:33:38 +0100
From: "Dr. Pivo" <dp at pivo.w.se>
Subject: triangle test

Some kind fellow. ( could it be Louis Bonham?) once sent me a table for
evaluating triangle tests. It was simply the number of participants within a
group, who needed to "test positive", in which to consider the results
significant.

I very cleverly buried that information within an ex-ex-ex computer which I
am loathe to revive.

Time for the next generation to move on, and make 'spurments. My son has a
tasting with just over 25 participants "triangulating" this weekend.

A chart would be nice. Particularly if it, e.g. dilineated 0.05 from 0.01
significance levels, or better yet gave the exact "p=" for each number of
correct responses, according to "n" participants.

Anyone who can help me with this, should know in advance that their help is
well appreciated-

remember.... "science is science, and art is art, and brewing is a most
enchanting marriage of the two"

Dr. Pivo

------------------------------
End of HOMEBREW Digest #5881, 11/29/11
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Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Homebrew Digest #5880 (November 02, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5880 Wed 02 November 2011


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You Are Corgailly Invited to The Taste Of Great Brewers - Dallas,Texas (Clara Ingram)


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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 04:36:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Evan Kraus <ekraus at yahoo.com>
Subject: Peracetic acid

Anyone know where I can get a small quantity of 5% or 15%

Peracetic acid in south Florida?


------------------------------

Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:43:12 -0500
From: Clara Ingram <claraIngram at benekeith.com>
Subject: You Are Corgailly Invited to The Taste Of Great Brewers - Dallas,Texas

All,

Tuesday, November 15, 2011 dozens of extraordinary brewery representatives
from around the world will be converging in Dallas, Texas for a very special
private event hosted by Ben E. Keith Beverage Distributors. The Taste of
Great Brewers sets a new standard for retailer events. This is the 2nd
annual event in Texas and there is a great buzz among bars, restaurants, and
beer stores throughout the DFW metroplex. We hope to inspire a wave of
innovation and appreciation for craft and import beer among attendees.

I realize that the timing of this invitation is less than ideal, but we
would certainly be delighted to have you attend. If you will be able to
grace us with your presence, please let me know so that we can prepare a
guest pass.

I look forward to seeing you there!

Cheers,

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Homebrew Digest #5879 (October 27, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5879 Thu 27 October 2011


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Contents:
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RE: What does "Underlet" mean? (Patrick Babcock)


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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:40:19 -0500
From: Dan Durrett <durrettd at cox.net>
Subject: What does "Underlet" mean?

I've heard the term, "underlet" before, but I don't remember what it means.
Is it back-flushing the wort into the bottom of the lauter tun?

Thanks for any clarification.

Dan

- --
Dan & Sonnie Durrett
586 L'Ombre Court
Fort Walton Beach, FL 32547

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:14:07 -0400
From: Patrick Babcock <patrick.babcock at gmail.com>
Subject: RE: What does "Underlet" mean?

Greetings, Beerlings! Take me to your lager...

Dan Durrett <durrettd at cox.net> wonders what "underletting the mash" means...

Underletting is to apply pressure into the foundation of the mash tun rather
than on top of the loaded grist. The intent is to "float" the mash and help
prevent compacting of the grist within the mash tun. When I still had time
to brew, I would universally add hot liquor to the mash tun by this method:
I would first flow hot liquor into the tun until it was several inches
above the false bottom ("strike" water). I would then add my grist slowly,
stirring to ensure no clumping, and adding more hot liquor from beneath the
false bottom to keep the consistency of the mash loose enough to stir and
mix. Once I was satisfied that all of the grist was wetted and that there
were no dry pockets remaining, I would flow the remainder of my strike water
in from beneath the false bottom, "cut" the mash a few times to help loosen
it, then begin my recirculation for the remainder of the mash.

Underletting can be used, too, to loosen a "stuck" or compacted
mash. This can be done by reversing a recirculating pump while cutting the
mash (preferred, if your pump can handle it, your strike water was
sufficient for your desired mash thickness, and your mash is still in
progress), or by adding some of your sparge water - again: from beneath the
false bottom - while cutting. If underletting to relieve a stuck mash during
runoff, be sure to recirculate a bit before restarting your sparge to re-set
your filter bed.

-
- --
See ya!

Pat "Bruno Moore" Babcock
SE Michigan
HBD Chief Cook & Bottle Washer

------------------------------
End of HOMEBREW Digest #5879, 10/27/11
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Homebrew Digest #5878 (October 25, 2011)

HOMEBREW Digest #5878 Tue 25 October 2011


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Contents:
Underletting [SEC=PERSONAL] ("Williams, Rowan")
RE: No-Sparge Mash and Final Gravity ("Ryan Thomas")
(dangthibichcham)


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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:55:44 +1100
From: "Williams, Rowan" <Rowan.Williams at ag.gov.au>
Subject: Underletting [SEC=PERSONAL]

Personal

Greetings all,

I recently brewed a Dortmunder using my standard recipe specifications with
just the one exception.

I underlet the mash.

I ended up with a crystal clear wort and beer, much clearer than any
previous batch of Dortmunder in the past.

Can anyone hazard a guess as to why?

The grist came from the same Weyermann bag that I've used in the past, and
the hops were from the same pack as used previously. On this occasion I used
W34/70 dry yeast which I proofed with water and a tablespoon of wort from the
boil. I also overshot my strike temp but brought it back into the zone with
a small addition of cold tap water.

I was pleasantly surprised how bright this beer was out of the tap.

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Alan,
In my one attempt at no-sparge brewing I had results that were in opposition
to yours. The Doppelcommon I made stalled out around 1.034 (from 1.092),
well below the rated attenuation of the yeast used. I did mash really high
though (158), which likely contributed to the underattenuation.
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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:15:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: Althelion at comcast.net
Subject: No-Sparge Mash and Final Gravity

As summer started to fade, I began brewing a few darker, stronger beers for
the fall and winter. I decided to employ the no-sparge technique in order to
intensify the malt flavor and aroma. I strongly suggest doing a no-sparge for
brown ales; scotch ales; etc. I really notice a greater malt flavor compared
to my usually fly-sparged mash beers. It seems that another effect of using
no-sparge is a greater attenuation as reflected in the final gravity
readings. Nothing earth shattering - maybe 5 - 7 points lower. Has anyone
else noticed this correlation between a no-sparge mash and greater
attenuation? Is there any literature on this topic?

Alan Pearlstein

Commerce Township, MI

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:20:55 -0800
From: Matt Wallace <dubious.chewy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bottle conditioning

That's good to hear! Planning to bottle a dubbel after crash cooling for a
week or two which I've never done before and was wondering about that very
thing.

-Matt

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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:40:04 -0500
From: Keith Busby <kbusby at wisc.edu>
Subject: thanks, and "what is it?"

First thanks to those who answered my question about bottle-conditioning a
tripel. I used about 20% of a smack pack of Wyeast 3787, and built up the
rest for another brew, which leads me to "what is it?" The resulting
bottle-conditioned tripel, incidentally, is very good and is nicely
carbonated.

Today's brew was an attempt to a sorta-kinda Karmeliet. Grain bill was 10lb
pils, 1.5lb flaked wheat, 1.5lb white wheat, 1.5lb flaked oats, and 1lb cane
sugar; 1lb rice hulls for filtering; 1 oz sterling, 1 oz saaz, coriander and
orange peel. 1 1/2 hr mash at 148-150, 1 hr mash out at 172, 1 1/2 hr boil,
chill to 80F. Stuck run-off! I managed to salvage things with siphon and
sieve, and when cleaning the pot noticed a stringy rubbery substance clogging
the run-off tube. I have had this once before but can't recall the recipe.
What is it?

TIA.

Keith

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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:59:41 -0400
From: Jeff Renner <jsrenner at umich.edu>
Subject: Re: bottle conditioning/refermentation

In nearly 40 years of brewing, I have never added yeast at bottling, and
have never had a failed carbonation. This includes some lagers which have
lagered many weeks in the secondary, and a few strong ales that were in the
secondary for several months.

I do make sure to slurp up some of the yeast off the bottom of the secondary
with the end of the racking cane when I rack the beer into the priming
bucket.

There is sufficient yeast to do what we want - ferment a few tenths percent
sugar in a week or two. It's very different from when we need to get a quick
fermentation of wort, with all the reasons for that.

Don't forget you can monitor carbonation by filling a half liter PET soda
bottle when you bottle. Squeeze out the air in the head space and watch over
days or a week or two as the partially collapsed bottle pops out, and then
becomes harder.

Jeff

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bottle conditioning/refermentation (Scott Birdwell)


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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:35:48 -0400
From: Fred L Johnson <FLJohnson52 at nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: bottle conditioning/refermentation

Keith Busby asks how much yeast to add to his five-gallon batches to bottle
condition his beers. I heard (indirectly from Sierra Nevada) that you should
add yeast to achieve one million cells per milliliter. A Wyeast Propagator
pack supposedly provides about 30 billion cells. (I'm not even sure one can
still purchase a Propagator pack. It doesn't show up as a product on the
Wyeast web site. Can someone confirm whether or not these are still
available?) Pitched into a 5 gallon batch, this pack would provide about 1.6
million cells/mL--more than you need (especially since the unfiltered beer is
unlikely to be free of living cells), but easy to perform.

The Wyeast Activator pack supposedly contains about 100 billion cells--many
more cells than you need. To achieve one million cells/mL, you would only
need to pitch 19 percent of the pack. If one goes this route, I recommend
pouring the contents into a sterilized or sanitized graduated cylinder and
pitching about 20 percent of that volume. (Make a starter for your next batch
with the remainder.) Alternatively, if you don't have a graduated cylinder,
you could pour the contents of the pack into a larger known volume of boiled
and cooled water and then pitch about 20 percent of that larger volume.

Of course, you can make a small starter from stored yeast, count the cells
in the starter, and pitch the appropriate volume of that. And you may be able
to get by without adding any fresh yeast. If you can stir up a small amount
of the yeast from the bottom of your carboy, that will probably be plenty,
assuming it is still viable. With this method you won't know exactly how many
viable cells you are transferring unless you count them--use a hemocytometer
and a stain such as methylene blue that is excluded by the viable cells.

I personally always pitch fresh yeast when bottle conditioning to ensure
consistent results. I do this by counting the cells in my starter and
pipetting an appropriate volume of cells into each bottle. I also add the
sugar to each bottle in the same manner after making up a solution of a known
concentration.

Fred L Johnson

Apex, North Carolina, USA

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:25:37 -0500
From: Scott Birdwell <defalcos at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: bottle conditioning/refermentation

> Keith Busby <kbusby at wisc.edu> wrote:

> Subject: bottle conditioning/refermentation

>

> 1) I have a tripel in a 5-gal carboy that has been in secondary for about
5

> weeks now and would like to bottle condition it as per Westmalle
procedures.

> Assuming the normal amount of priming sugar, how much yeast do I add? I am

> going to use Wyeast 3787. One swollen smack pack? Half? Stepped up?

Like most homebrew shop owners, I would love to sell you another pack of
Wyeast for this purpose, but frankly, I think it's a waste of money. You've
already obtained the flavor profile with your original yeast and switching
yeast strains or even adding more of the same for bottling will have little
impact on flavor IMHO. All you need at this point is a yeast that will
tolerate higher alcohol levels, eat sugar, produce carbon dioxide, and then
settle out and pack down when it's done. I would contend that a decent
quality dried yeast will do nicely for this purpose. Nottingham, Safale
US-05, etc. should do the trick. Keep in mind that the typical amount of
priming sugar will only raise the gravity maybe two points, so that's all
you're really fermenting at this stage. Other folks may have different
opinions, but that's the way I see it.

Scott Birdwell

DeFalco's Home Wine & Beer Supplies

sales at defalcos.com

www.defalcos.com

P.S. After "only" five weeks in the secondary, I'd be willing to bet that
there is still enough viable yeast left suspended in the beer to carbonate
without the assistance of an additional yeast charge.

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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:26:58 -0500
From: Keith Busby <kbusby at wisc.edu>
Subject: bottle conditioning/refermentation

(delurk)

1) I have a tripel in a 5-gal carboy that has been in secondary for about 5
weeks now and would like to bottle condition it as per Westmalle procedures.
Assuming the normal amount of priming sugar, how much yeast do I add? I am
going to use Wyeast 3787. One swollen smack pack? Half? Stepped up?

2) I also have two 5 gal batches of p-lambic, one a blend of 05 and 06, the
other straight 08. Both are now very sour and will need to be blended with
something younger to be palatable to anyone except a diehard with a concrete
aesophagus. I'm thinking blending with a lightly hopped ESB-type brew with
some residual sweetness and/or just a young p-lambic. Same question re bottle
conditioning.

TIA,

Keith Busby

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